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Elon Musk: Why China's Nine-Dash Line is unbreakable. History, Law and Global impact: COMMENTS: Sunday 16-03-2025

 

Why China's Nine-Dash Line is Unbreakable: History, Law, and Global Impact.

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No one care about those tiny little islands for centuries until the troublemaker came along and provoke them.
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I would like to add one more point /fact here:-- Soon after the World War II (the year 1947) it was the US Navy helping the Nationalist government of China( then the government of China and now in Taiwan) to reclaim the islands in the South China Sea from the Japanese occupation during the WW2. Some names of the US Navy vessels participation in the operation were taken to rename some big islands reclaimed at that time. This fact suggests that the US government at that time agreed or at least did not challenge China's sovereignty over the South China See. The Chinese is consistent while the US has changed in respect of South China Sea sovereignty
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Once upon a time, there are no other countries except China in or around South China sea.
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Finally someone is courageous enough to tell the SCS claims of China as it is. No geo-politics, no talk about UNCLOS or distortions of history. What will Phillipines, Vietnam, Malaysia have to say about this!???
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Philippines historical claim started in the 1400's when chinas 9-line didn't exist!!!
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Wow. This is an impressive, convincing, and powerful argument for a historical issue of territorial sovereignty that has been central to the modern era for centuries. 哇。对于几个世纪以来一直是现代社会核心的领土主权历史问题，这是一个令人印象深刻、令人信服且强有力的论据。
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It used to eleven dash lines until China gave concessions to Vietnam in the 1960s.
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Thank you Elon, for giving such a clear, logical and solid historical evidence of the China South Sea's ownership. These parts of the sea, China has sailed since the Qin dynasty and at that time the natives on the islands of the Philippines were still busy to figure whom, from the next tribe, would be on the next dinner table. Vietnam was still a part of China.
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Pinoy, case closed, period!
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It needs to be pointed out that China is the ONLY country in the world that has a 5,000 year old CONTIGUOUS history as a Civilization State. In other words, its time line has NEVER BEEN BROKEN. It’s worked these waters for millennia before the surrounding countries ever existed. Most of you should have heard of the Chinese Ancient Silk Road, but during this time China also created the Maritime Silk Road which navigated through these waters. It dates back from the 2nd Century BCE! Here’s an overview. Maritime Silk Routes- The Story of the Oldest Trade Routes The Maritime Silk Road was a network of sea routes that were used from the 2nd century BCE until the mid-19th century. The routes were used for trade, cultural exchange, and other interactions between the East and West. When was the Maritime Silk Road active? 2nd century BCE: The Maritime Silk Road began to take shape 10th–15th centuries CE: China began building their own ships and using the routes Mid-19th century: Steam-powered boats replaced sailing ships, ending the era of the Maritime Silk Road How did the Maritime Silk Road work? Traders used ocean currents and monsoons to their advantage They used traditional navigation techniques They sailed long-distance in sewn-plank and lashed-lug trade ships They traded a wide variety of goods, including silk, spices, and jade Who used the Maritime Silk Road? Austronesian sailors in Southeast Asia, Persian and Arab traders in the Arabian Sea, Tamil merchants in South Asia, and Chinese traders. UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE CONVENTION - https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/6093/#:~:text=Compared%20with%20other%20huge%2Dscale,scale%20can%20be%20hardly%20equalled. The Chinese Section of the Silk Roads “…Chronologically, the period of Sea Route of Silk Roads covers from the Qin and Han Dynasties of China (BC 221-AD 220) to middle 19th century, when the steamship began to replace the sailboat and greatly changed the ancient navigational activities. The Chinese Section of Sea Route of the Silk Roads can be viewed as a cultural bridge linking different regions and nations with rich historical information. Among the heritage sites along the route, the port cities like Quanzhou. Guangzhou, Ningbo and Nanjing stand as the most important junctions. The well preserved monuments and sites in these cities embody the cultural communication among different civilizations, and witnessed the great historical events like Zhenghe's Navigation, Marco Polo's Travel, and Monk Jianzhen's Sailing to ancient Japan, etc…..”
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No more "Gulf of Americs" in Asia.
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Thank you for the excellent explanation 👍
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On historical ground, the Japanese conquered South China Sea was returned to China by US led WWII Allies leaders in 1945. The process was recorded into the annals of the UN. The Philippines, Vietnam and Malaysia together occupied 40 over Spratly islands following the forecast on the existence of petroleum deposits in1968 - at a time when China was in turmoil due to the Cultural Revolution. To achieve amicable withdrawal solutions, China had invited the occupiers for bilateral talks. While permitting fishing, re-supply and troop rotation missions to bases and outposts constructed. China had also taken up the prerogative granted by the 1982 UNCLOS Convention to preclude its legitimate borders from being reviewed. After China dismissed the UNCLOS non compliant pronouncements of the private tribunal initiated by the Philippines, the latter embarked on a campaign of making intrusions to provoke and portray China as a bully. To use part of the negative depiction created to mud-sling and suppress China's rise, the US and allies are sending warships to encourage the Philippines to make more encroachments.
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Talk about proximity, should Falkland Islands belong to Argentina or Britain?
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Thanks for the clarification Elon
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In 1945, after WWII, at the Potsdam Conference, documents were signed stipulating that the group of islands including the Parcel Islands, the Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands within the 11 dash-lines are China's sovereignty, but not until 1951, Treaty of San Francisco, US revoked the Potsdam Treaty because the KMT fled to Taiwan and the CPC came on the scene. China was not invited to attend the San Francisco Treaty, and her protest fell on deaf ears. [In 1947, 11 dash-lines were drawn to designate China's sovereignty in the South China Seas, and later became 9 in 1957 as China handed the Island of Bialongwei in the Gulf of Tokin to Vietnam.]
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Recognizing and respecting China's historical sovereignty in this region is the only way to bring permanent peace to the region, and focus in growing economical cooperation instead of endless quarrelling. China in return must shoulder responsibility in ecological protection, maintain peace and order in the region, ensuring freedom of navigation for all normal commercial shipping.
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Very well explained. 👍
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Sounds good. China is the legal owner of the South China sea.
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You can be a good lawyer for PRC, eloquent and logical. Chinese are also logical and eloquent, but always too too polite. What you just presented was exactly the same presentation made by George Yeo, the former foreign minister of Singapore.
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Proximity does not equate ownership. Understand this ?
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Agreed. Well said 👏
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Kudo to Elon speaking AFTER thorough research of all the historical facts. China's claim on South China Sea have been deeply rooted back in ancient time.
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This video sounds like deepfake. I don't think it is actually Elon Musk.
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Philippines can have all the water to Guam, ask Daddy U.S for it
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Everybody wants Peace - Nobody wants the undersea submarine cables being cutoff destroyed ruined - Harmony - Tranquil.
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Excellent clear concise commentary. The best I have heard.
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Absolutely true, unbelievable. China came from a long solid history of moderations, hard work, scarified, corrections, built from the ancient wisdoms of the past. University education happened in Han dynasty, at the time of Roman empire. Much earlier Qin dynasty already built motorways today still can be seen at some areas. The Qin emperor had built 6 imperial colleges...
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Thanks for the great indepth insight...
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But china has rectified the convention in 1982 to limit the countries EEZ and territorial sea. If china has a law that changes today they no longer recognised the laws from yesterday. it's similar to UNCLOS. Therefore, China should recognize the UNCLOS they rectified in 1982. Because the Roman empire cannot reclaim the past territories as the world recognises each sovereign territory
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CENSORED from the general public. The U.S. WAS RESPONSIBLE for forcing the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea decision on other countries “rights” in the South China Sea. Prior to that, China had been working effectively with each country to come to a settlement on the distribution of rights. Currently countries in the region are also working on standards, behaviors, and guidelines to maintain equality of access to the contested region. This process had been running smoothly until the U.S. prompted the Philippines to create incidents and false flags to garner media coverage, including more avid support from USAID funded media outlets. To an extent, the Philippines has backed off being chastised by other countries in the region for their actions. As long as the Philippines remains a “slave colony” to the U.S., don’t be surprised to see incidents pick up again, particularly now that Trump wants to focus efforts on taking China down. As is typical, the U.S. decided not to be a member to the Conventions, and as is also typical, the U.S. will interfere in legal matters it has no standing in specifically to create conflict, pit one nation against another - the “divide and conquer” concept. The UNCLOS was adopted in 1982 and entered into force in 1994
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Thanks very much EM for another deep insight and revelation. As South East Asians, we need to follow what is laid by the Law. It's time we seek a closure and we are sure China as a Peaceful Nation would not mean any aggression towards us. I would say you're probably someone like Kissinger perhaps even greater.
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Philipoines colonoal masters never had possession of these islands. FDR told Pres. Quezon in the 1930s.
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In ancient times of South-East Asia, the Srivijaya and Majapahit Kingdoms did not cover the South China Sea area in the sense of territorial control as we understand it today. However, both kingdoms were influential maritime powers in Southeast Asia and exerted significant influence over trade routes and regional politics, including parts of the South China Sea. 1. **Srivijaya Empire (7th to 13th centuries)**: - Srivijaya was a thalassocracy (maritime empire) based on the island of Sumatra (modern-day Indonesia). - It controlled key maritime trade routes through the Strait of Malacca and the Sunda Strait, which are crucial waterways connecting the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. - While Srivijaya did not directly control the South China Sea, its influence extended over coastal areas and trade networks that bordered the sea, including parts of the Malay Peninsula and Borneo. 2. **Majapahit Empire (13th to 16th centuries)**: - Majapahit, based on Java, was another maritime empire that succeeded Srivijaya. - Under the reign of Hayam Wuruk and his prime minister Gajah Mada, Majapahit claimed sovereignty over a vast archipelago, including parts of modern-day Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines. - Majapahit's influence extended to parts of the South China Sea, particularly through its control of trade routes and vassal states in Borneo and the Philippines. However, it did not have direct territorial control over the South China Sea itself. In summary, both empires were influential in the region surrounding the South China Sea and played key roles in the maritime trade networks that passed through it, but they did not "cover" the South China Sea as a territory. Their power was based on control of trade, ports, and coastal regions rather than direct governance of open waters.
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The statements are correct. In the era of colonisation, Western powers were interested in lands and colonised them. On the other hand, China's emporers administrated its marine territories with fleets for centuries.
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china is illegal occupying whole of larger south china sea, does not mean south china sea own only by china, some parts of south china sea is own by Philippines eez 200 notical miles and vietnam malaysia brunei,indonesia,taiwa..
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That is correct. That maritime area has been part of China looooong before the other countries even existed. It would not have been a big hyped issued if not for the us intentionally pushing the other countries to make a big hype about it.
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I heared two Prof of law saying similar thing some time ago. And they are western prof. They said have read documents in UK, US, France about that matter confirming that thesis. Curiosity: some history books describe that part of the ancient territory of vietnam, the northern part, was included in the chinese empire for thousand years... China was the Middle Empire, or more properly the middle of the empire. The name china was attributed by the western powers a few centuries ago.
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A very very interesting explanation by Musk.
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Elon hits the nail on the head on this nine dash line history. Two thumbs up for Elon.
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True information about the south China Sea
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The Chinese better polish up their English because Elon Musk with his complete facility of the language can help explain the nine dash line so convincingly well thus giving the said claim enhanced legitimacy
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Thats why after ww2 Japan return SCS back to china in the Taipei treaty or sinojapan peace treaty obligated by postdam and Cairo declaration. China then claim the surrounding sea of their SCS islands as 11dash SCS made known in the UN without objection from any countries inc major powers.
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Whoever wrote this essay, please do not attribute it to E Musk.
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Philippines government should read this video.. to understand china position on the south china seas
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Signing UNCLOS while still pushing the Nine-Dash Line claim is like agreeing to a prenuptial agreement but later arguing that half of the spouse’s assets are still yours - it’s contradictory and self-serving.
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Mr Elon, the Philippines was not Baby learning to walk, look and read the Bible first since the beginning of human history , it was not belong to China but by people who lives on it,,PERIOD!!! Mabuhay ang PILIPINAS!!
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Thank you for this historical background of China's soverignty in South China Sea. Now, I know better.
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Thank you Sir 🎉🎉😍🇨🇳😍🎉🎉
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Long live the Dalai Lama.
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Ownership depends on the barrel of the guns. Who got the bigger toys to play.
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This is what makes Elon Musk different from the others. He is objective, impartial, unbiased, knowledgeable, calls a spade a spade.
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The problem is china agreed and ratified the UNCLOS, which set boundaries to every countries shorelines(TW, EEZ, ECS), and 9 dash lined appears more recently (1946), and the Philippine map since 18th century.
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👍 I am truly impress with the extent of knowledge of the historical facts of this region by Elon Musk... A clear and concise presentation !
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What about Hawaii which is so far away from USA ?
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Defending sovereignty of South China Sea is major undertaking of China currently of which Musk is aware of. Trust he'll convey his understanding of this issue to Trump, Rubio and other hawkish members of US government to stop the use of South China Sea for stoking animosity.
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While the President of the Philippines won't care about it but the assets freezed by the US is more important... Well, gonna buy more high heels to support Marcos Junior..
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Elon, thanks for educating the world with geography, otherwise not known by most of us. your credibility will help iron the creases between US and China.
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Your explanations made logical sense to me, reasonable and clear dating back to history hundreds of years ago when China was active in the area. Thank you so much for showing us with clear demonstration and maps. The puzzle solved !
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😱honestly, Mr.Sir Elon, I think ur grown up in the wrong place 'n time🫵🏻 if u live in the Mc Carthy aera🎅🏻 I think u were never more "a good guy = a chinese friend "!!👍
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Elon Musk is so knowledgeable, hats off to him. This is a big issue probably many people are not aware of. In 2016, I was at the ADNOC site executing a new project. One of my Filipino colleagues exults towards me showing American navy patrolling and they will save as China is claiming their territories. I then checked Google and found the same thing Elon Musk explained here. Many thanks for educating many.
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Also, Vietnam was part of China for over a thousand years. So China actually can claim Vietnam, but China won’t.
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Thanks, Elon, well said!
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Mr must should take care oc his tesla rather than comment nonsense about these countries
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Countries at the 9 dash lines didn't have written language until the West colonized them.
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China has been around for ages, and so why wouldn't it have claimed those islands? It did.
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South east Asia countries all claim the South China sea islands based on nothing more than Unclos. Unclos only gives them the rights to extract economic benefits 200 nautical miles from their coast, not sovereignty. But countries get greedy, and they're now talking like they own the place. Vietnam's claims can only extend to the Paracels, but they also claim islands so far into the sea like the Spratly, for no other reason than the islands being formerly occupied by their colonial master, France. So, all the countries have no legal basis at all.
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Great to know the actual truth.
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Thank you Mr. Musk for your clarification.
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Crystal clear history. Thanks EM.
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musk knows the issue more than anyone else. 👌
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If we go by the Chinese narrative that you defended so warmly, Italian PM Giorgia Meloni should claim sovereignty over the whole Mediterranean Sea.
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Weren't European migrants settled in the American continent, in both South and North ? What does this fact tell us ?
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In addition to the above mentioned information, based on the Treaty of Paris on December 10, 1898 between USA 🇺🇸 and Spain 🇪🇸 Spain agreed to sold Philippines to the U.S. in the amount of USD 20,000,000 without the inclusion of any islands 🏝️ in the China’s South Sea. For this reason, Philippines false claims of the islands are illegitimate.
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Why is Elon Musk sounding pro China in all these videos
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Elon tells the truth to the whole world.,
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If all of this is true, why did the 2016 arbitrational ruling of the Hague side with the Philippines, and not the infuential and giant China? Does Musk know something the UNCLOS does not?
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I will excuse YOUR IGNORANCE and not talk about this because it would be lengthy for me and I don't want to annoy others.
his mouth does not match his words. Period
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Philippines' claim and sovereignty to the Spratley Islands and Scarborough Shoal predates that of china's 9 dash line. Watch the video presentation from the philippines side of the story. See "Philippines Island Territories in the West Philippines Sea"
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China had never colonised another country. China is our only hope for our continued peace/prosperity/humanity in East Asia. The 120 year-old Philippines (islands) should stop being a troublemaker here in this peaceful region! I am from Singapore btw. 😊
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The last island of china is Hainan. China has their own eez, why they want Philippines EEZ
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The US forgot to mention to the Philippines that under Paris Accord in 1898, Spain sold Philippines for US 20 Million Dollars and a Map was delivered showing Longitudes and Latitudes where the Boundary of Philippines is. If Philippines wants to Follow the Footsteps of Ukraine then the Wishes will be FULFILLED.🤣🤣🤣
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Artificial intelligence really fooled alot ...the 9 dash line never existed ...japan wouldn't have taken Formosa ..an
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The *United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)* cannot unilaterally preside over a hearing for a dispute about a territorial sea area if only one contested party brings the case. UNCLOS dispute resolution mechanisms require the consent or participation of all parties involved in the dispute. Here’s how it works: --- ### 1. **Consent-Based Dispute Resolution**: - UNCLOS provides a framework for resolving disputes related to the interpretation or application of the Convention, including disputes over territorial seas, exclusive economic zones (EEZs), and continental shelves. - However, any dispute resolution process under UNCLOS requires the consent of all parties involved. If one party refuses to participate, the dispute cannot be unilaterally adjudicated. --- ### 2. **Compulsory Procedures under UNCLOS**: - UNCLOS includes compulsory dispute resolution procedures (Part XV, Section 2), which allow states to bring disputes to international tribunals, such as the **International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS)**, the **International Court of Justice (ICJ)**, or an arbitral tribunal. - However, these procedures only apply if both parties have accepted them. If one party has opted out of compulsory procedures (as allowed under Article 298 of UNCLOS for certain types of disputes, such as those involving maritime boundaries), the tribunal cannot proceed without mutual consent. --- ### 3. **Case Example: South China Sea Arbitration (2016)**: - In the *Philippines v. China* case, the Philippines unilaterally brought a dispute against China under UNCLOS regarding maritime claims in the South China Sea. - China refused to participate in the proceedings, arguing that the tribunal had no jurisdiction because the dispute involved territorial sovereignty and maritime boundaries, which China had excluded from compulsory arbitration under Article 298. - Despite China’s non-participation, the tribunal proceeded and issued a ruling, but China rejected the ruling, and it was not enforceable without China’s cooperation. --- ### 4. **Limitations of UNCLOS**: - UNCLOS is not a supranational authority and cannot impose rulings on states without their consent. - Dispute resolution under UNCLOS relies on the willingness of states to engage in the process and abide by the outcomes. --- ### Conclusion: UNCLOS cannot unilaterally preside over a hearing for a dispute about a territorial sea area if only one contested party brings the case. The participation and consent of all parties are required for the dispute resolution mechanisms under UNCLOS to function effectively. If one party refuses to participate, the dispute cannot be resolved through UNCLOS mechanisms unless both parties agree to alternative means of settlement.
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For all Country to have peace, all country should come together and give China a lesson it will never forget...
Where is there Velarde map? The Spanish Velarde map, also known as the "Mapa de Filipinas," was created in 1734. It is significant as one of the earliest detailed maps of the Philippines, drawn by Portuguese cartographer Miguel de San Juan Velarde. This map played an important role in the history of cartography, particularly for the Philippines and its colonial history.
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Thank you, Mr Elon Musk, you have clarified the boundaries of South China Sea. Hopefully every other country will follow the right of boundary. A salute to you, Mr Elon Musk.
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For sure the Philippines will stand for their souvereign rights and will fight for that.
ha ha.....the US....have MONROE ( MORON) doctrine.. why ? 😂😂😂so dont even talk about the 9 dash line.😂😂😂
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Elon Musk is really a man with a very high IQ and EQ . His knowledge is second to none total respect ❤❤❤
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Liar! The Nine-Dash Line is a demarcation used by China to claim a large portion of the South China Sea, but its legitimacy is widely disputed under international law. China’s Perspective China argues that the Nine-Dash Line is based on historical rights and that Chinese fishermen and traders have used the waters and islands for centuries. The claim was first officially introduced in 1947 by the Republic of China (Taiwan) and later adopted by the People’s Republic of China. International Law & UNCLOS The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), which China ratified in 1996, establishes that coastal states have sovereignty over a 200-nautical-mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). Many of the areas China claims under the Nine-Dash Line extend well beyond this limit. 2016 Arbitration Ruling In 2016, the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague ruled that: • China’s Nine-Dash Line has no legal basis under UNCLOS. • China cannot claim “historic rights” over areas beyond its EEZ. • Many of the contested features (e.g., reefs and shoals) are not islands and therefore do not generate EEZs. China rejected this ruling and continues to assert its claims. Regional & Global Reactions • Countries like the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, and Indonesia reject China’s claims, as they overlap with their EEZs. • The U.S. and its allies do not recognize the Nine-Dash Line and conduct freedom of navigation operations (FONOPs) to challenge excessive claims. Conclusion The Nine-Dash Line lacks legal legitimacy under international law, but China continues to enforce it through military and diplomatic pressure. The dispute remains a major source of tension in the region.
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南海是中國🇨🇳自古到今天🏝️鄭和🌊⛴️🏝️鄭成功🌊🚢
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Big Thanks to Elon Musk 💪🥰👏👏🎉👍✌️💯🥳
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That's the reasons why the UNCLOS must have own Fist to enforced the Law not just only the Philippines to defense
This is just all bs .
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When the modern pirates came then trouble at the west Philippines sea begun😅😅😅
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Hahaha this author is talking nonsense. How about the velatde map which was drawn on 18oo did you not see it don't make comments when you do not see the truth. You are just speaking bulshit.
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No way you cannot be a super power if you are surrounded by your enemies you must learn to respect island nations their existence with surrounding oceans your history was changed during colonial period and ours was erased or hidden.
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his mouth does not match his words
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I learned that the China South Sea belongs to China, the then Republic of China, in my geography class in Taiwan. I was so confused when I first heard about the territorial dispute of this area caused and stressed by the Biden administration. Thanks to Musk for his explanation.
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Very informative
Lol bs from bots. Talk about philippines not a country yet doesnt mean they dont stay and fish at the island less governing it by their tiny kingdoms. And they totally ignored Vietnam in this context because viets already broke off from china since the song dynasty and may have been governing using living fishing on the islands as much as chinese did. your history digging into xufu looking for elixir holds no water, those guys most likely went to japan and never came back, try claiming japan is yours then.
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The 9 dash line is difficult to sustain.
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The claim in Xu Fu story is just as absurd as Spain claiming ALL Pacific islands by virtue of Magellan sailing into them in 1521
If you want to talk internacional law, see the Montego relative to the UN Internacional Law of the Sea of 1982 (UNCLOS), and the Arbitrary sentence in favor of the Philippines.
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Thats the danger when you have someone who thinks he knows everything and is getting involved in politics
I am totally disappointed with Musk's comments, sounding like a child. As a child, he does not know sovereignty over any sea is determined by the natural phenomenon of bordering but not determined by a country's dependence or independence. We adults should know better.  First, if you are bordering on a sea, you are the owner of a piece of the sea, regardless whether you are a village, a vassal.  Secondly, the sovereignty over any sea has a natural limit, no country did ever own an entire sea. For instance, did China ever own the entire Pacific Ocean? Did any country ever own the entire Pacific Ocean? Of course nobody did. Now China dreamed it owns the entire South China Sea. And according to Mr. Musk, the world must comply to China's dream. What a joke !
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Watch also the video presentation from the Philippines side of the stiry. Watch the video. "Philippines Island Teritorries in the West Philippines Sea".
China had a long time trade history with the Philippines before Spanish Colonial era , there's also a lot of Philippine tribes that are also good seafarers live in islands. But all things changed when Spaniards arrived . Philippines is too busy being colonized by Spain than focusing on territory. China never occupied those islands infact trade relationship with Philippines had even made some Chinese live among Filipinos. But this doesn't justify the 9 dash line because uf that's your logic then Magellan should owned atleast 50% of the world because he simply "he got there first."
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Elon, you got your history all wrong! Will Spain claim the PH because Magellan, a Spaniard discovered the PH. Should Portugal claim USA coz it's discovered by Columbus? The UN PCA ruled in 2016 the 9-line map illegal and invalid. Just look at 1734 Murillo map so you could be educated and erase your ignorance.
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Whatever you say, UNCLOS rules. No one can own a sea. PERIOD.
Does Elon inckudes China as his future business huge customer?
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Thank you Mr MUSK
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Just because you write it and drawn it on paper and I did not means you own what I own? and just because you show everyone that you are an old civilazition even though our ancestor have been living here for so long you mean you own everything? wow what a mindset.
China progresses but the brain of its Citizens were not. Imagine, they believe that this was really Elon musk's narrative? 😂
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That is the greediness of China other country had also same historical claims.China was not only the human in this world..think of it.
Elon Musk: " I just saw China's new giant space station and it's not good ". Youtube Channel: Top Master You see Elon.. Neutrally speaking ... Your guess is as good as mine... I just can't imagine if we follow historical rights and not abide in the current international law... What will happen...Elon..???
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Read more, Elon.
No way American will do this if it’s not CCP propaganda channel😂😂😂😂
Right on, Elon!
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Here to read angry comments from toasted Filipinos.
Nine dash in 2025 .ten dash line in 2026 .eleven dash line in 2027 .whahaha
You are the best daring to tell the truth about China claimed on South China Sea.
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Elon is a China expert.
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That is an imaginary line and delusion of owning the south china sea even parts of it is part of other countries.
If this is true, why does China bark on the wrong tree. ICC who is the acknowledged leader to put na order. if we would not abide because it is not favorable. Lawlessness will always lead to disorder because we don't have one standard to hold on to.
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Elon ...... we also have an ancient map showing exactly Philippine terretorial water . If you promote China while ignoring our right , why are you building your dwelling place in the Philippines ? I do not know if it is true . If in case it is true...... why not go to China and build there your kingdom ? What you are declaring here is so dismaying, unfair, ilogical and very offeding to us, Filipinos ! GO TO CHINA !
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Will india and the QUAD agree to China's NINE-DASH LINE??.
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as far as every nation in the world. this is the general rule. “Who owns the ocean? No one owns the ocean. The seas and oceans are considered to be a 'global commons', which means that they belong to everyone and no one at the same time. However, countries do have the right to claim 'exclusive economic zones' (EEZs) up to 200 nautical miles from their coastlines.” no nation on earth owns a sea except china 😂 and that is what keeping peace hard to achieved obviously
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Wow, Elon knew all that! I definitely learnt something I didn't know before! Thanks for this important time line !
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Thanks, Prof Musk, your mother was a laureate scholar too.
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Pretty much sure this was presented to Arbitration. But what happened? All countries that are involve should abide Internatiol law, to avoid conflict...
But why the Indian Ocean is not belong to India and the English Channel did not belong to the British.So that is just an idiotness of Elon Musk.
Then suddenly they want it 10 Dash line..😂😂
Hahaha deepfake musk
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China may have made a map during ancient times indicating the islands in South China Sea, but that was in the past and China did not even bother to protest for all Southeast Asians to fish freely within those boundaries. Why not China be magnanimous at the present, and let Southeast Asians be treated like in the past?
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Well explained
Get educated musk, look at Philippines map 1734. You will see what the Philippines owned. Stop talking bullshit.talk to historians and experts before you open your mouth.
Pinoy care about these little islands? They will sell Luzon and Mindanao when the price is right!
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Illogically stated...just simply follow international laws and no more further discussions...why should china telling the world that Palawan is theirs...no more past events what we need is to follow international laws by not showing to the world how mighty is your military.
Its all over Secretary Manalo of the Philippines already answer this in Germany,
Sir I beg to disagree because no human owns any bodies of water like this disputed seas that China claims to own as South China Sea based on their 9 dash lines. But this claims were not at all so ancient as far as the era of the ancient Land of Lemuria is concerned. But during the ancient human era it was the Land of Tawalisi was ancient than tsinjh (China). Thus claim is mentioned by Ibn Batutah in 1400s at the Kingdom of Kaylakuri in the Imperial Kingdom.
Sorry the ASEAN International Sea is free for maritime navigation, airspace which existed there and won’t cease just because China is economically, militarily stronger than decades before.
India has it's own version of 9 dash bullshit . It's called " Akhand Bharat " . In ancient India 56 States that exsist today were part of Ancient India . That includes most of Asia . In daily Hindu Prayers Sanskrit chanting Mantras are still being recited as a part of Purification Ceremonies . Jai Hind !
that is not elon musk talking, some chinese ccp troll.
It's an explanation of Chinese narratives
So unreal and another propaganda. Anybody can draw a line or map and say he guys our map is better and older than yours. Wake up and stop bullying the weak! Its not amazing its a disgraceful attitude that will be part of your history! That's real, isnt it? #Velarde Map of Philippines #Biblical history #Tabon Man and fishermen of Philippines. #SChinaSea is not own by China like IndianOcean is not owned by Indian totally.
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China claims all their neighbors backyards they are fighting every where😅😅😅
Yes, and the British used to rule the waves. But there’s an international court decision against the Chinese on this issue.
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The Spaniards drew a map when they discovered the Philippines in 1521 and named some of the islands as part of the Philippines long before China laid their claims.
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wow, good history back up that proven everything now. I in the past thought Taiwan and the 9 dash line shouldnt belong to china but after history studies, I have to acknowledge that Taiwan is no doubt belong to china. Now your this video made me acknowledge the 9 dash line. No wonder they are named after china too. To ad in, at that time china has massive ships to sail across oceans but the Asian countries only has tiny boats or they call it sampans,..... that can only cram 6-8 persons.
China could have colonised or occupied SE Asia had China behaved like western imperialists. SE Asia was basically undeveloped hardly populated except for small settlements. Western imperialists created SE Asia countries like Indonesia, Malaya, Philippines,etc. without western imperialism,there won't be such countries
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You mean independence is the key basis for ownership? How can claim ownership historically when it is within the backyard of your neighbor
Thats not nansha islands there's no such things or island names like that here in the Philippines thats a part of the Philippine islands and the Philippines consists of 7,600plus islands and you're just a media dumy of china🤬😡
Elon mask is brain wash by china. Hahaha
Propaganda. Video by Chinese
Philippines has oldies map
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China propaganda.....use English language....mis leading ....strategy.....😂😂😂😂
For those who dont know.. china owned themoon to..😂😂😂 china thinks the are the first human being live on earth 😂😂 🤣✌️
It was foretold in the Bible that the ancient Babylon Chiba will be burned down☝
Elon shud just sticks to his business of making trillions..dont mess with politics, something beyond you..
we have the rights and that area is belong to all pilipino people, we have document to prove that, documents speaks it self.
Mr. Elon Musk's bot resolved the conflict between the US and China, possibly preventing WWIII.
If china own this sea, how they owned and manager of this seas its foul
Hindi pa sinilang pang gagago lang ang ginagawa saan mo ba nabasa sa basa sa buwan o ss araw
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Why you are not discussing the treaty of paris and the treaty of Washington it is the Philippines history ....
Another trolls of China
Chinese propaganda s,wait for our response
it's not even Musk...
Then if you’re that smart, explain to us what you know about the Murillo maps of 1724.
It isn’t the style Elon Musk speaks. Likely memes to deceive
A funny incident occurred during World War II when the colonial powers of the era gave the South China Sea its name. There is little evidence linking the history of the South China Sea to the Chinese government or dynasties that once occupied land in the Malay Archipelago, except for one mission under Admiral Zheng He, also known as Cheng Ho, during the Ming dynasty, The South China Sea was even earlier known to ancient mariners as the Champa Sea and the Malay Sea on their navigation charts. What we understand is that in the 19th century, many Chinese residents in southern China migrated to Southeast Asia due to famine and political instability in China. China has never been a maritime state; instead, it is a continental force that reaches into Siberia and Central Asia. Why didn't China confront Russia and reclaim the remaining boundaries and the Manchurian territories they had lost? Do they lack the strength to accomplish this? There is no basis for China's claim to the Nine-Dash Line; it was made in 1949 and is essentially a self-proclamation with no historical basis. China is merely using the Nine-Dash Line as another tool to intimidate the recently independent nations of Southeast Asia.
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Interesting news okay
you dont know what you are talking about.. i thought you were smart enough but i guess your not.. you need to make more research.. before magellan came here we own most of the islands in the spratlys..if magellan didnt came here to conquer us were still independent.. so we own the West Philippine Sea as we know as the spratly islands..
Thank you very much for your excellent geopolitical and historical explanation of the South China Sea and its entire region, and that is why you know so much about Mars and Earth, right? You are also a great teacher.❤️💝❤️🌟👏👏👏👏👏
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How true it is???!!!
Philippines is Ophir
Elon is so knowledgeable amazing I didnot even know this original mater - history thank you 🙏 FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE
How do know more than we do who’s told you ….
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UNCLOS dont recognize that 10 dash line...
Nice presentation but it doesn’t mean it’s right and acceptable
It is real account?
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It's sounds real elon musk
This is a Little Bit BIAS.
What the heck your talking about hahaha....dah dah dah.... Your a liar...
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This is non sense no need explanation for that just follow the Law of sea so there is no overlapping and the whole world is happy
Mr Musk you’re not on our side. We had all we needed to prove an ancient ownership of all islands claimed by Philippines!
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Do the Spanish, Portuguese or Brits need a lawyer or line for their land possessions in Brazil and Americas? And what of our ancient relatives the Phoenicians and Romans?
@glyzamaegabriel1521 The distance of the Falkland islands to Argentina is 945 miles, whereas to the UK is 8,050 miles. Following your EEZ's close proximity logic, the Falkland islands would belong to Argentina but they don't. Despite the Falkland islands being very much closer to Argentina, they belong to the UK instead who is very much further away simply because the UK have always had Sovereignty over the Falkland islands that override the EEZ. The EEZ rules don't apply to Sovereignty which is the primary feature of the UN charter.
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Important key not mention is phillippine illegally “park” BRP Sierra Madre in 99 after Taiwan remove it troop from second Tomas shoal from a hurricane and found phillippine is there after that. They tried to complained to US but as US is an allies to both and advise Taiwan to let it go to phillippine. Pinoy is patriotic but stupid enough not knowing what they are fighting for.
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So they will get the Philippines oil and gas.
TO EDUCATE YOU. MR, E M! FIND YOURSELF THE MURILLO. VELARDE MAP IN , SPAIN'S. ARCHIVES, THEN , COMMENT. AGAIN , ABOUT THE PHILIPPINES CLAIM TO THIS ISLAND , ?? ,
Elon Musk's historical knowledge started on 1990's. Philippine map shows since 1700's. To Elon Musk if you're not sure of what you're talking about please shut up period.
Excuse me! Our Philippine History is way earlier than before the Europeans came and also way earlier than the Chinese History 'coz God's Creation Story happened here!!!!!!
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Ming dynasty claim that but lose in war on Philippines and attack Mainland China ti deny there claim because Filipino is first discovered it
😂 that's not even Elon. CGI CPP propaganda 😂
What about Murillo velarde map, 1874, show Philippines is the owner of west Philippines sea,
No wrong about that Philippines has a historical the Vellardi map try to research about that Mr. Musk
Your logic is convoluted and have no idea of South East Asian History. 😅😂
Chekwa's propaganda 😂😂
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You need to go back way back from 1800 Duh!
Wow, what a deceptive narrative. China's South Sea is just born today, ha ha ha . . P.I. LIAR . .
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Taiwan is country
Part of China is Philippine territory.
Important key not mention is phillippine illegally “park” BRP Sierra Madre in 99 after Taiwan remove it troop from second Tomas shoal from a hurricane and found phillippine is there after that. They tried to complained to US but as US is an allies to both and advise Taiwan to let it go to phillippine. Pinoy is patriotic but stupid enough not knowing what they are fighting for.
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But china has rectified the convention in 1982 to limit the countries EEZ and territorial sea. If china has a law that changes today they no longer recognised the laws from yesterday. it's similar to UNCLOS. Therefore, China should recognize the UNCLOS they rectified in 1982. Because the Roman empire cannot reclaim the past territories as the world recognises each sovereign territory.
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Which other countries agreed to 9 dash line😂😂😂 Always from ancient times 😢😢
The Maritime Silk Road.
How about Isreal who line is that?
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The overlapping claims over this part of world have parallels with the Holy Land at the time of the Crusades, when Jews, Muslims and Christians laid claim in favor of their sacred places. At the time, those claims were mostly about religion, or at least seemed so. In the South China Sea, the claims, whether historical or legal(at least per the UN), seem to be about sovereignty, with more than just hints of economics. One thing is clear, whichever country has physical possession of any part or all of this territory, has the stronger claim by default. What isn't clear yet is, will this be yet another Holy Land-esque conflict? It is simplistic to say that the human race has not learned much over the centuries, that it is merely substituting religion with sovereignty here. 😅 But the hard truth is, it is about the race for resources, which in truth the human race has not learned to manage properly. 😂 Until this is rectified, it would appear here that all roads lead to a destructive conflict.
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Philippines is a country never existed before Western colonization era just like India.
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Fare enough, Mr. Musk.
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False information.
Let me say. ASEAN countries all are Chinese people's. They speak different dialect. There skin are similar to yellow skin. Some are darker. There is no black or white skin peoples. Okay
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there's no sea South of China 😂
Is "South China Sea" A Name of One Country's Teritoryo.? Or a Name of a *Gulf.?
It is obious bugos historical claim by china.
Elon Musk haven’t read the very Old maps that illustrates the ownership and shown the part of South China that are closed to Philippine sovereignty.
Very convincing elo mah i mean elon musk
Chinese illusion..
What the f are you talking about? The Philippines has one of the oldest Maps that shows most of those territories belongs to the Philippines. Even Sabah belongs to the Philippines
Your wrong. your idea is nonsense 😅😅😅
You are liar. You may know well science. But you know nothing. Don't think you know better than the local who lives therefor thousands of years!
Maybe China should charge shipping to pass through the south China Sea, same as Suas Canal and Panama Canal!
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Nonsense...
Why did China sign UNCLOS? There must be a better way to solve this conflict.
This is a idiotic propaganda video
Hahaha china dont make us stupid.
The vlogger is bias and paid😂
Illogical narratives.
Whatever too much is bad for our health 😂😂😂
Ow really? So why is india not claiming the Indian ocean? They have akso a map as old as the alien 2500 yrs old? Just kidding
Look at the Philippine map on 1734
mass report please.
So Elon has become a geopolitical YouTuber now? 🤣 Is this Chatgpt or DeepSeek? 😂
I have no problem with China claiming the China sea. But, with sovereignty also comes responsibility. So, if China protects the environment of the South China Sea, I say yea
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Crazy CHI_A,,
Are we living in 2025 modern world with international justice system Or some claims made based on utopian mediaeval imaginary lines, If that was the case what is the status of Tibet or Mongolia
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 that's not Elon musk.. thanks
Wapakels!!!
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All are imagination stories
Is this really Elon musk talking?
Again LIES and DECEPTIONS. Silly story. Tell it to the Kinder Garten.
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Now this time no more 9-line. It is only dream..And if China still containue to take it, it very dangerouse for him.
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Who you to say that…
Computerize mouth
Wow,,,,????? Is dis really Elon? Hahahaha.
Hahaha very funny and weird.. 🤣🤣🤣
Good narrator
your content is useless
My goodness, he knows better than many others Chinese do. 👍
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Very well stated: clearly, historically, and legally. Mr. Musk is a real genius.
You know these islands you made are artificially made through reclamation .
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Thats ur propaganda
Must follow Musk chat !
I guess this is not truly Elon Musk based on this: "I aim to deliver insightful and engaging content based on his ideas, achievements, and vision.". Care to show respect for and confirm to all the viewers of your videos whether you are Musk or not?
Well stated, and that’s a fact.
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Hahaha 🤣😂 its a joke!!!
Lucid and objective. Xcpt that people prefer to believe what they want to believe.
Like the point that China does not oppose to ownership by proximity. Why doesn't China use that logic?
Unfortunately, the 9 original tribes of taiwan does not speak chinese but their dialects are related to the philippines and indonesia.
Hahaha istupeyd😂😂😂
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Thank you for educating those uneducated .
In ancient time no territory on ocean and sea. It was common trade routes of everybody. China was never become marine super power at that time.
Bikini islands
Modern days recognizes UNCLOS
False info😂😂
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😂😂😂hahaha😅😅ingot
Later, they'll say that America likewise belongs to China since American Indians also look like Chinese in some ways & are said to have migrated from China & other places in Asia during prehistoric times. Maybe, he thinks he can gain more & more sales in China's markets by doing this.
Interesting. But how ancient in ancient? And why Hainanese until very recently are looked down as living at "edge of the sky and corner of the seas?
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All of a sudden EM is now an expert on all matters! Maybe it’s self driven considering his business affiliations with China. I lost all respect for this guy!
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