Monday, November 11, 2024

NETIZENS COMMENTS: If US starts a war in Taiwan it will be defeated by China in a few weeks.

 

I have visited both Taiwan and China recently. I am amazed that despite the almost daily news reports of China encroaching into Taiwan airspace, something like war is going to happen very soon, but I saw hordes of Taiwanese tourists in China, visiting China happily, some even work in China, including their chip engineers helping China to develop their own chips. And in an election in Taiwan recently, the friendlier-to-China factions form the majority in their parliament.
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This man makes so much sense. I think people like him should be in the US government. Then the world would enjoy peace and stability.
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China can take Taiwan easily because America doesn't want to against a super power. I think the 2024 Zhuhai Airshow is a show to the world how powerful the Chinese military technology is.
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I agree with him on taiwan but he’s very uninformed about Hong Kong! There is evidence that the Hong Kong protest was funded by the US through the NED ! It’s time for other countries to fund US separatists in Texas and Hawaii to see how the US will feel !
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No more war. Time for honesty and Peace !
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If China takes Taiwan back, I bet the US doesn't dare to send in their navy within 2000 km from the China sea border. Otherwise, the US Super Carrier would be destroyed.
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If Prof Goldstein has any influence over US policy on China , the best advice he can give is just that since Taipei is more than 10,000 km from San Francisco and that Taiwan is a part of the ancestral homeland of the Chinese people. All these talk of nuclear war and the end of the world would be meaningless and we can all have a cup of coffee and go home if only the Americans would stay out of what is essentially not their problem.
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Excellent guest ! What a breath of fresh air to listen to a rational intellectual of high caliber telling the facts and truth ! I’m now a fan of your channel ! Please keep the truth coming to educate the uninformed and ignorant who just parrot mainstream media propaganda like a mindless parrot
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As an outsider looking into HK during those recent chaotic periods, I can't see how China was involved in the mess or responsible for it. I thought the whole saga started with the murder of HK woman in Taiwan by the man who went there with her. He is a HK citizen and managed to leave Taiwan and cannot be extricated officially as they do not have that kind of arrangement. It is from here that this interests took root as they wanted to have the law passed that set off the episode on with the help of outsider's interference coming from the NGO, diplomats and organized groups that inflamed HK and rioting. Although the Chinese garrison is there but they never did nothing and it's puzzling to put the blame on China but without mentioning the US(politicians were there) UK activists and the NGO.
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Excellent topi, excellent guest, thanks to Watson for this interview, thanks.
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Good luck USA China 1.5 billion 340million USA 😂OK stupid is as stupid does
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China ALWAYS offer peaceful cooperation with USA. It has wisely built up formidable DEFENSIVE forces. USA does not stand a chance of winning a war in the South China Sea over Taiwan.
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the usa seems to forget that russia has substatial assets onasian border and that n. korea would also be involved.. doubt we can beat russia and china together. we ve already lost the proxy war in ukraine
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How Abt America mind its own business instead of starting wars. Yeah cuban missile crisis, indeed who started placing missile in Poland? Oh it was America n when The soviet's wanted to put missiles in Cuba, America threw a fit. Maybe Hawaii should be free from America, it was forcibly taken from the Polynesian King.
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Uncle Sam couldn’t beat the peasants in Nam n the goat herders in cave, how the hell can they take on 2 million well fed well armed young soldiers?
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China: Taiwan is our brother why war. Taiwan: China is our brother. Dpp: usa help us against China. Usa: 😂😂 please go ahead and war. Us wellbeing depends on the unrest there. Please... fight among yourself...
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20 years ago, TW was much wealthier but now it's barely better than the city of Shenzhen. The US feels a lot stronger about this issue than TW residents.
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Professor Goldstein's insights into the Ukraine conflict are thought-provoking, particularly in terms of its broader influence on the Russia-China relationship and the evolving global landscape. His remarks underscore the interconnected nature of today’s geopolitical challenges, reminding us of the importance of unity among allies and strategic partnerships. This discussion invites reflection on the profound ways in which global stability is shaped by mutual understanding and collaborative efforts. Professor Goldstein’s assessment of shifting global alliances in light of the Ukraine war is a timely reminder of the fluid nature of international relations. His reflections on the deepening ties between Russia and China point to the complex reconfiguration of alliances, calling for sustained diplomatic engagement. This perspective highlights the necessity of fostering resilient partnerships, based on shared values and strategic foresight, to navigate the evolving geopolitical landscape effectively.
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I think 6 hours will be reasonable assumption.
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Thanks for this frank and thoughtful analyse 🙏
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Remind me, what does the word "ONE" in America's One China Policy mean? Are we to assume America is incapable of abiding by its word? No need to answer the second question. it's rhetorical. Looking forward to an answer to the first though 😅
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He doesn't define what is winning here. Is it defeat Taiwan or defeat US military? Since China military readiness for Taiwan is always targeting US military, it is never about Taiwan. Nobody thinks Taiwan stand a chance. There is no need for this pretending smart guy to tell Taiwan would be lost within 6 to 10 weeks.
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W t f 💀 Why is the west mental.
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Of course China will.. In fact.. I think Taiwan will just surrender the before War starts.. The options are not that bad for Taiwanese.. Reunification is One Country Two Systems.. Where Taiwan retain control of themselves.. For how long depends on the agreement.. It doesn't have to be 50 years like HK..
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In other words, when China announce that those two thirds who did not vote for the present government be given a 3 months visa free stay in Fujian, would be sufficient time.
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It's so refreshing to have a realist speaking such common sense... US have such talented people but none of them are in Government. China preparing for the worst case is such bad news, but the Doves are all "drowned out" by American Hawkes.
If you deeply think the possibility of nuclear war is very deem.
There hasn’t been long lasting peace nor there will be, war is inevitable when greed & hegemony is overwhelming…
Taiwan is important in Washington from the MIC perspective.
CPC knows, if CCCP dismissed CPC will become the next targeted
Taiwan is approximately 160 km from the southeast coast of China and share a common dialect with the people from the Fujian province. Reason why China is so concerned with Taiwan is that it fears that the US administration is using it as a launching pad to get into the mainland . US is always meddling with other nations’ internal affairs and it has never fully succeeded in taking over the Chinese mainland. It fails in the Korean, the Vietnam wars and recently in the war against Afghanistan.By keeping Taiwan on its agenda with its seventh fleet in the straits of Taiwan, it hopes to regain its strategic position in the Asian Pacific region , after all Taiwan is the first island chain in the series of islands in the SouthChina seas and with its military bases from Australia,the Phillipines, South Korea and Japan, it has already formed a noose around China. It’s main aim is to strangle the Chinese economy as 80 percent of China’s trades pass through the SCS. Hence the importance of Taiwan to the Chinese is fundamental.
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Sorry Hammi. When the man disagrees with a common set of arguments for American interest in Taiwan, surely you could ask him to explain further rather than looking at your paper and reading prepared questions.... Vitally, we need to know why your great guest, and i respect his experience and knowledge, and I happen to agree with him, believes that there isn't an economic or military argument for America to defend Taiwan! That's the whole point! If there isn't a reason to, i need to get my bum out of Taiwan asap! Well, considering that I agree with him I do! I've lived in Taiwan for 10 years and China for 3 and speak mandarin. Here are my arguments. 1. America has S Korean and its own chips. As long as the factories are not in Chinese hands, America is still ahead. However, the chances that China has a good deal of the tech it needs to produce top or near top chips is very very high. I say this because I have not seen strong will for independence. The Taiwanese do not want war and the vast marjoity will not fight in the streets like the Ukrainians. They want peace, business, stability and hotpot! 2. America must be fully capable of detecting subs in the seas if they have carrier fleets roaming around all year long. I mean the Pacific is almost half the surface of the earth but still, I'm guessing that the tech is there?! Also, America has Yoneguni, micronesia, okinawa and 5 bases in the Philipines. Taiwan is a dud really. 3. The cost of defending Taiwan is immense, particularly because its military lacks capability to defend itself and the people lack the will to defend themselves. To go to war with China puts 13 percent of Amercian GDP at risk whereas Taiwan is a far smaller percentage. Also, there is the cost in military equipment and troops.
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Strategic ambiguity works when China is weak.
American is self appointed policemen of the world otherwise where does Military Industrial Complex get their money.
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Many channels said this too, about Russians Operations too, and Donbas is still occupied. I believe no one only what l see for myself.
Dr. Goldstein looks like Bob Morton, that executive of OCP that fathered RoboCop 😉😆😅
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MAD is the result
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Although pretty well all of the world accepts that Taiwan is a part of China, it also is important for America to project its dominance over the oceans including the South China Sea, and to constrain China through the first, second and third island chains. Taiwan is part of this. What would happen if China or Russia became increasingly strong? Commercial interests in the US could suffer and Americans wouldn’t want that! Starting wars with Russia and China might be good ways for the US to try to limit their power.
Goldstein? A "chosen" people? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Since when do these people tells the truth?
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Saturday, November 2, 2024

NEO: The trade war against Beijing is a war against Chinese Sovereignty: 02-11-2024 Saturday

 

The Trade War Against Beijing Is a War Against Chinese Sovereignty

Lama El Horr, November 02

There’s an old proverb: “If you want to drown your dog, accuse it of rabies”. With its strategy of sabotaging the Chinese economy, the United States has taken the ruse a step further: accusing China of having rabies isn’t enough, you have to give it the disease.

The Trade War Against Beijing Is a War Against Chinese Sovereignty

Since the Trump administration declared trade war on China, the United States and its EU allies have steadily intensified their policy of decoupling from Chinese economy, through the adoption of economic sanctions, tariff and non-tariff barriers, and bans on the export of certain “sensitive” products to China.

In parallel with this ostracism of certain sectors of the Chinese economy, the Western media repeatedly claim that the Chinese economy is in bad shape, and even on the brink of collapse. According to these birds of ill omen, the golden age of Chinese economic growth is over.

The real aim of the Western bloc is to limit China’s economic and commercial competitiveness

Fabricating self-fulfilling prophecies

Washington and its affiliates present China’s economic indicators as a succession of disasters resulting from the Chinese government’s misguided economic policies.

According to this narrative, China’s growth is at half-mast due to a misallocation of resources by the Chinese authorities. These errors of judgement are said to have led to a widespread domino effect: provincial indebtedness is becoming unsustainable, the real estate sector is collapsing, companies are making less profit, youth unemployment is soaring, consumer prices are falling, and so are wages and confidence. The volatility of China’s stock markets is also invoked to support the Western narrative. – And if we add to this the ageing of the population, then there is definitely reason to believe that the Chinese economy is in terminal decline.

Of course, behind this cataclysmic portrait lies the aim of undermining confidence: of domestic demand, of investors and of Beijing’s partners. For it should not be forgotten that this portrait pretends to ignore the avalanche of trade restrictions imposed on China by Washington and its satellite countries, which are bent on reducing, and in some cases banning, trade with Beijing. These maneuvers reveal that the real aim of the Western bloc is to limit China’s economic and commercial competitiveness – and, by extension, the development of its partners in the South.

At a time when the energy transition is the new hobbyhorse of the Western bloc, which sees it as a means of perpetuating its hegemony by imposing new rules of exchange, it’s hardly surprising that China’s spectacular progress in this field should incur the wrath of Washington. The imposition of particularly high tariffs on Chinese electric cars – 100% by the US and up to 45% by the EU – leaves no doubt as to Washington’s intentions: to undermine the dominant position of Chinese automotive companies, accusing them of unfair competition through subsidies and overcapacity. Lucid as to the fallacious pretext underpinning this masked protectionism, China has decided to take the matter to the WTO, whose rules of free competition are clearly being flouted.

The accusation that China uses forced labor on the Uyghur population of Xinjiang province serves the same purpose: to exclude entire sectors of Chinese industry from trade with the United States. One only has to consult the list of Chinese products included in the UFLPA to realize the geopolitical and geo-economic dimension of these laws adopted by Washington. By targeting strategic products such as cotton, PVC aluminum, silica-based products, tomatoes and seafood, the obvious aim is to keep out a competitor whose dominant position is undermining Washington and its allies.

This American law on forced labor – protectionism disguised as the defense of human rights – also enables Washington to cultivate the image of a dictatorial China, disrespectful of human dignity and mistreating its Muslim population. It goes without saying that Beijing’s considerable investment in the economic development of Xinjiang, which has proved to be the best antidote to terrorist and separatist movements directed from outside, deprives Washington of a formidable instrument of blackmail against Beijing. It also goes without saying that, in the context of the daily bloodshed in Gaza and Lebanon – carnage carried out by Israel, but sponsored and promoted by Washington and its European allies – these accusations against China have not a shred of credibility.

The Western diagnosis of China’s state of health also deliberately ignores the economic reorientations undertaken by Beijing. Like the great Chinese economic policies of the last thirty years, these reorientations are long, far-reaching processes of transformation, constantly being readjusted in line with internal and external circumstances. This is how we understand the concept of dual circulation, the priority given to the digital economy and China’s march towards technological sovereignty – not forgetting, of course, the global geopolitical architecture of the BRI. The “Decision” of the 3rd Plenum of the 20th Central Committee of the Communist Party set out in detail the priorities on which the country’s economic policies should be based.

National security vs. sovereignty

The economic restrictions imposed on China are said to be primarily motivated by “national security” concerns. These concerns would be sufficiently alarming to justify, in the eyes of the US and the EU, the exclusion of certain Chinese products, or even sectors, from trade with Washington and Brussels.

The US, for example, has consistently highlighted the danger posed by dual-use technologies such as 5G or high-tech semiconductors, which can be used for both civilian and military purposes. Thus, under pressure from the US, several EU countries had to give up on Chinese 5G. Similarly, high-tech semiconductor manufacturers have been forced by US injunction to ban exports of their products to China.

American concerns about “national security” also extend to seaports on all four continents. Beijing’s construction and/or management of strategic commercial ports, such as Hambantota in Sri Lanka, Bata in Equatorial Guinea and Chancay in Peru, is perceived by Washington as a potential threat, as these ports could eventually be used for military purposes.

Washington recently imposed sanctions on six new Chinese companies, accusing them of helping Iran “acquire weapons of mass destruction”, as well as contributing to the modernization of the Chinese army. – At the same time, the United States continues to compromise China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, having just signed a new $2 billion arms contract with Taiwan – violating, for the umpteenth time, the spirit of the three joint communiqués signed with Beijing.

These unilateral coercive measures reveal that China’s economic ascent, whose corollary is its military ascent, is perceived by the United States as a threat to its hegemony. The adoption of economic and trade barriers against Beijing aims to hinder China’s technological sovereignty, and to keep Beijing dependent on the American-dominated Western bloc. There is no doubt that these coercive measures are also intended to guarantee Washington a say in China-EU relations, and to prevent the EU from becoming too independent of Washington.

Faced with this reality, we must face up to the only valid question: what legitimacy can the notion of “national security”, put forward by the United States and its allies, have if it denies their geopolitical competitors the right to protect their borders and resources, to choose their own development path, and to improve the lives of their populations? This question goes beyond China: it also applies to Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Zimbabwe and so many other states whose “national security” is mercilessly trampled underfoot by a handful of major powers.

In short, we have to call a spade a spade: the trade war against China is a war against Chinese sovereignty.

 

Lama El Horr, PhD, geopolitical analyst, is the founding editor of China Beyond the Wall, especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook

What is hiding behind the US fragile sense of security. Global Times: 02-1102024

  

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    What is hiding behind the US’ fragile sense of security?: Global Times editorial
    Published: Nov 02, 2024 12:48 AM
    Illustration: Chen Xia/GT

    Illustration: Chen Xia/GT


    According to reports, the US-based Pamir Consulting has released a new report titled "Displays are the New Batteries," claiming that China's rise in the display manufacturing industry may bring "national security" concerns to the US. China's display industry has been in the US' crosshairs for a while. John Moolenaar, the newly appointed chairman of US House select committee on strategic competition with China, wrote to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin in September, requesting that the Pentagon place two Chinese panel manufacturers on the DoD's blacklist as Chinese military companies. One of the authors of the new report was also the main black hand behind SMIC being placed on the US sanctions list. It seems that China's display industry is being sent to the assembly line of the US' suppressive policies in the name of "national security."

    It has to be said that from corn processing plants, cranes and TikTok to Chinese garlic and displays, the US has always given people a new understanding of the scope of its "national security" and sense of security. Some commentators said, "US security is like a basket, and things from all walks of life can be put into it." Others said, "The US may only feel safe if it dominates in all fields." In recent years, some Chinese industries have been inexplicably labeled as "threats to US security" after gaining relative competitive advantages. Perhaps it is not because US national security is weak. Behind this "fragile" sense of security, there is a hidden agenda of trade protectionism and industrial monopoly.

    One of the authors of the latest report on displays, in all apparent seriousness, stated that displays are increasingly important pieces of computerized military equipment, while the other author falsely claimed that the rise of China's display industry was due to government subsidies. "Securitization" is the typical approach to suppressing China's industries. With the hammer of "US national security" in the left hand and "Chinese government subsidies" in the right, every industry in China that rises will be targeted. Although the display manufacturing emerged in the US, Japan and South Korea had dominated it for many years. Why did the US never mention "security threats" when Japanese and Korean manufacturers led the global display industry, while some people started to hype "security threats" only after China showed its competitive advantages? Obviously, this is just an excuse for the US to contain and suppress China.

    Is it really about national security? When faced with this question, Christophe Fouquet, CEO of ASML, the Dutch semiconductor equipment maker that is under US pressure, said that much of ASML's business with China is focused on mature technology that is less relevant to national security concerns. According to the logic of the US scholars' report, all electronic products could pose a "security risk." Should the consumer market of global trade, worth as much as trillions annually, be reevaluated under this US sense of security? Who will foot the bill for the ensuing disruption to industry and supply chains? The narrative of "fragile" security that the US has made up to suppress China ironically spreads a pervasive sense of insecurity worldwide.

    What is even more concerning is that this is not only an attempt to smear Chinese companies but also sends a disturbing signal that emerging nations and the Global South countries' right to development might be at risk. China's display industry rose from nothing to being the world top in terms of industry-wide output value not, as the report claims, due to "subsidies" but because Chinese companies have grown step-by-step through self-driven innovation and steady progress in a competitive market. If China has any relative advantages, it lies in factors like its vast market, strong industrial chain supporting capabilities, and the rise of a series of consumer electronics brands, which together have provided a strong foundation for the growth of China's display industry. The R&D intensity of top Chinese firms in the "technology and electrical hardware and equipment" sector has increased 646 percent over the past 10 years, compared with a 67 percent increase for US firms.

    When developing countries like China work hard to establish their own industrial advantages, the US has resorted to non-market competition, citing "national security" in nearly absurd terms to suppress them. This casts a shadow over global development. Today, it is China's display industry; which industry from which country will it be tomorrow? Must other nations cease development for the US to feel "secure"? Obviously, the general development aspirations of the international community do not agree with this logic of the US. With the economic integration and industrial linkage of countries, only by relying on innovation and cooperation to make the development pie bigger can we achieve common prosperity and security.

    COMMENTS: What makes US feel so fragile in security: NB: US just wants to prevent others from coming up to compete with US

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    Part of the problem is the unspoken fear that a lack of American industry puts the nation at risk because it makes it dependent on other nations. And, in American (and especially right wing) ideology, dependence equals weakness - which is a cardinal sin in America. There is ultimately only one answer: the U.S. must become industrially competitive again. But, Americans are not willing to make the sacrifices that that would require -- so we try to limit and tear down those who ARE competitive.
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    There are many rising companies such as BYD and TEMU that are giving consumers value for money. US companies should reflect and compete fairly instead of hiding the apron of national security. As a consumer, I find it very disturbing that so many leading companies are blocked by fake national security concerns or tariffs, such as Huawei, SMIC, TikTok etc. US, Europe, India should accept that China is an important part of the global economy and constant changing of goalposts will not prevent China's rise.
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    First and foremost ASML is not a US company ..it's a Dutch company....it must be able to do business with China as it wishes....and the US is also giving subsidies to companies in the US that will come up with better Lithography machines made by the US....the US is also trying to knee cap ASML at the same time
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    The US specifically the white man of the US thought being innovative is exclusively thier God given talent given to them only...racism and superiority complex is what clouds their judgement..now Chinese people are innovating better products it pains them ......